Okay, here's what's up -- we just had a blow-up in our Seattle NOC, where the encoded streams are being routed. Given our Albuquerque experience, we thought it would be good to use ISDN to get back to the top-level servers in Seattle. From there, the streams are sent out to a half dozen second-level servers spread out around the country. Unfortunately, one of our operators noticed smoke (!) coming from one of our Cisco 2926 switches at around 3pm (Detroit time) & was forced to take it down, dropping the NANOG feed. Don't say it, I know, we shouldn't have any single points of failure, sometimes we play the odds & get burned, so to speak. The "please try later" message was/is coming from the second tier servers which think their stream was taken down because we've hit a limit & they're not supposed to serve any more. That message has been popping up sporadically over the last few hours & I think this may help explain what's been happening. About 5 minutes in to the 12 minutes that we were down we decided to just stay offline & just archive Mark Kosters & Guy Almes locally for later playback (it was 3:03 & we they wanted to get started). The archives are all intact, & we'll get them all up for demand play soon. Jeffrey Payne GM, Broadcast Operations, RBN