Headers, from my end with the nanog receives removed. Something going through sendgrid.net, and passes through a mail server under the control of cl112rm.com. cl112rm.com reeks of spam. ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@sendgrid.net header.s=smtpapi header.b=q318kQB7; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bounces+51012-8522-nanog=nanog.org@sendgrid.net designates 149.72.45.128 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bounces+51012-8522-nanog=nanog.org@sendgrid.net"; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=2mbit.com Received: from o16.message.cl112rm.com (o16.message.cl112rm.com. [149.72.45.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lh27si269894ejb.698.2020.10.19.09.11.00 for <nanog@nanog.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Oct 2020 09:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of bounces+51012-8522-nanog=nanog.org@sendgrid.net designates 149.72.45.128 as permitted sender) client-ip=149.72.45.128; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@sendgrid.net header.s=smtpapi header.b=q318kQB7; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bounces+51012-8522-nanog=nanog.org@sendgrid.net designates 149.72.45.128 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bounces+51012-8522-nanog=nanog.org@sendgrid.net"; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=2mbit.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sendgrid.net; h=content-type:from:mime-version:subject:to; s=smtpapi; bh=bPV33jyqmJOuU37gOMJ3R7sJ6qAWhBhtpDBuq+2e6C4=; b=q318kQB73XoAcEBa3oHI/GEPYFPXLFbi3ILhI9OdBm5usF4w/t4ZDKera+uGLoQjq06D 1LW4CXoj2XLuiDKl/ItW2V4ejcYxufXlZiCD2+rucur7ONAKKuHTIbyMu2mUraj590Kht4 gFdRkozDThXAJbW/C+HRj30QJOboD5+Rg= Received: by filterdrecv-p3iad2-fb4b446ff-kbjqc with SMTP id filterdrecv-p3iad2-fb4b446ff-kbjqc-18-5F8DBA93-20 2020-10-19 16:10:59.328555336 +0000 UTC m=+577714.615887568 Received: from NTEwMTI (unknown) by ismtpd0002p1sjc2.sendgrid.net (SG) with HTTP id IoABsQrnQvuz_TSO_PCw6Q Mon, 19 Oct 2020 16:10:59.191 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=2991e1a3618a6aebecb08629cf3d6dad39a77000acb468a173519b31600c Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 16:10:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Brielle <bruns@2mbit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <IoABsQrnQvuz_TSO_PCw6Q@ismtpd0002p1sjc2.sendgrid.net> Subject: Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations [ID #5475871x3] X-SG-EID: =?us-ascii?Q?O1XouBPEC9l7AS2MyTPb+8ds0gLJjnsCs0SUvuXeG20RHXRToNCui+m=2Fd13ZUt?= =?us-ascii?Q?xP6bL5G8fwyugilChlRKSuX1Hniszzm2uILP++T?= =?us-ascii?Q?gN+pQXFlhmd=2FIIpTzyBVhcD2s9ShP16XeJ8dylb?= =?us-ascii?Q?bNC1bwmwXToXSPc4iMdgwYRv=2Fkr68yfuz0r6WTF?= =?us-ascii?Q?B1mU0KYKx0aLSGPBY5BXNa1nLE9NMHyZv71LD5r?= =?us-ascii?Q?8XjMk03vTZ04P65Lc=3D?= X-SG-ID: =?us-ascii?Q?N2C25iY2uzGMFz6rgvQsb9ItyPnz4VvYLPt87=2F39PsdLR2epbx=2FzBLDxc0VJCm?= =?us-ascii?Q?Xd8m2H34fN2uxE=2FrEcH4BLeHFTfVcEIBrAyveJI?= =?us-ascii?Q?DCQeWU=3D?= On 10/19/2020 10:10 AM, Brielle wrote:
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*Brielle* replied Monday, October 19th, 2020, 12:10pm EDT
Anyone know what the hell this "BuyGoods" crap is on some of the NANOG messages?
On 10/19/2020 9:55 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
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I haven't tried one myself, but Dasan Zhone has the M2400 and M3000. Basically, a whitebox with IP Infusion code on it. New, I think the price point is sub $2000 to $4000 new. That's a ton of ports for that price point. Anyone tried these yet?<https://u51012.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=EhPlf17glKOZNVwhASoWuDgg-2FgvW5A5MFuGE0qlkslKLqOw6shUYbqzlwICX1qvhGrxrQp154CA7oriDMMFX-2Fg-3D-3DBkmk_FXQS9GGQnf2NUciIM2Uj1P5Rmzx6-2Fb1NEqYJ37Xi2EYt2clxIm1VxzOOleHBbxaus-2B1EtfzosBelafnXpBfoBc4kCSoo2Es1gNZvodUFriN-2BXsEavLEr8quFqJgrLYUz6493Ab0CmH-2FfamLSkAq-2B-2FBOk2jamxqfmtcAoaqAyivU78X7cnXAzxK8teni469MuN8K5faV3c0-2BEMh8LFlPfwc3ImbzgsqIDWApieD2vM1Tz3JiT6MM9wqVWdytrhGzpKp9PGM7rb8jj5PzmzJ5PwA-3D-3D>https://dzsi.com/product-category/mobile-xhaul/ <https://dzsi.com/product-category/mobile-xhaul/>
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 3:38 AM tim@pelican.org <mailto:tim@pelican.org> <tim@pelican.org <mailto:tim@pelican.org>> wrote: On Saturday, 17 October, 2020 00:41, "Tony Wicks" <tony@wicks.co.nz <mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz>> said:
Well, there is always the MX104 (if you want redundancy) or MX80 if you dont. That will give you 80gig wire speed just dont load it up with more than one full table.
Bear in mind that the MX80 is now in the EoL process, you have <4 years of support left. Depending on your expected life-time / depreciation rules, buying one new right now might be unwise.
Do *not* throw a full table at it (or any of the PowerPC Junipers) unless you have a lot of patience for reconvergence, and black-holes while you wait.
MX104 is a nice box for getting dual-RE in something relatively compact and cheap, and has environmental hardening if that matters to you, but is still not best pleased with full tables.
OP could do with clarifying "cheap" :)
Regards, Tim.
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