On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Aaron Wendel <aaron@wholesaleinternet.net>wrote:
On 7/14/2013 3:37 PM, Richard Golodner wrote:
On Sun, 2013-07-14 at 09:36 -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
in fact, they were all likely in the same rotten boat.
Why I love open source. Look at my mail, track my web site visits. None of this should come as any surprise, especially to the members of this list. Now for the guy down the street that is working on his 69 Camaro at two in the morning it may have come as a shock. Richard
We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time under a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary. These companies gave the NSA access to their systems voluntarily. To me there is a big difference. I would be interested to know what they got out of it.
It was far from voluntary, and it apparently didn't happen without a lot of resistance. At least some details of the long, hard fight that started five years ago are finally being allowed to be declassified now: http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/16/technology/security/yahoo-fisa-court/index.h... http://mashable.com/2013/07/16/yahoo-fisa-court-2008-prism/ It will be interesting to see how much of the court documents will be visible and unredacted when they are released on Monday. Matt