On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 03:17:50PM -0400, John Curran said:
Ken -
ARIN maintains the WHOIS based on what the community develops for policies; what's happens in routing tables is entirely up to the ISP community. No "bleating" or "large sticks" here, just turning the policy crank and managing address space accordingly.
ARIN pulls the address space, and then (after holddown) reissues it to another provider. WHOIS reflects this change, as does in-addr. Whether an ISP respect the information in WHOIS is likely to always be a "local decision"; ARIN's responsibility is to make sure that the information contained therein matches the community's policy not some hypothetical routing enforcement.
There will be an ISP attempting to make use of that reassigned address space, and one could imagine that party being let down if the community says one thing in policy but does another when it comes to routing.
/John
John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Thanks John - I realise this. I was merely putting on the hat of those who may try to bend the policies to their advantage through delinquent activity. The common good is at stake here, and I'd rather that ARIN did have some collective 'stick' to effectively apply itself or via its members. I too don't want to deal with announcements for the same prefix from multiple warring AS's or other side effects of the IPv4 crunch. I'm indicating (the probably obvious) that these pressures will certainly increase over time, and as one other member pointed out, the sticks may become neccessary - and the community will have to become more 'constitutionally ethical' in their handling of delinquents on ARIN's/the commmunity's behalf. Not sure what incentives are in play to encourage this, as it will become necessary in a shorter time than we may think. Thanks for your reply and clarifications. /kc -- Ken Chase - ken@heavycomputing.ca - +1 416 897 6284 - Toronto CANADA Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151 Front St. W.