--- sean@donelan.com wrote: From: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> : But if a majority of the "data centers" are a single server : in a room, the cost savings of moving it to a different : room may not save billions of dollars. But no one will : remember. Many are not one, rather several. For example, in a job there were two M$ servers in a room. The guides required an AD setup (with a backup AD), 2 NTP servers with Stratum 1 (for, you know the logs in the syslog server; they need to be accurate), a router, a LAN switch (can't put a LAN switch card in the router) and a firewall. All for *two* servers. I'm not even mentioning the administrative requirements for all the boxes. It's all phunny money. Real economics are not even considered. At all. : Prediction, there will be a glowing report in a year or so : about the huge cost savings, and then a couple years later : will be an Inspector General report about problems counting : things. And he will get his money, so the counting will get done. Bigger budget, more responsibility, more scope of authority, higher pay. Not the IE just gov't managers in general. : If that's what taxpayers want, that's what they'll get. Taxpayers get no say in the process. We can chant 'more efficiency' all we want. It's just water on a duck's back. Nothing will change. Like an ant trying to turn a tank. scott