You're right, I shouldn't let the access technologies define the services I offer, but I have to deal with the equipment I have today. Although that equipment doesn't easily support a 1:1 product offering, I can tell you that all the decisions we're making in regards to upgrades and replacements are moving toward that goal. In the meantime, it is what it is and we need to deal with it. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Joe Greco [mailto:jgreco@ns.sol.net] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 3:17 PM To: frnkblk@iname.com Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...
Geo:
That's an over-simplification. Some access technologies have different modulations for downstream and upstream. i.e. if a:b and a=b, and c:d and c>d, a+b<c+d.
In other words, you're denying the reality that people download a 3 to 4 times more than they upload and penalizing every in trying to attain a 1:1 ratio.
So, is that actually true as a constant, or might there be some cause->effect mixed in there? For example, I know I'm not transferring any more than I absolutely must if I'm connected via GPRS radio. Drawing any sort of conclusions about my normal Internet usage from my GPRS stats would be ... skewed ... at best. Trying to use that "reality" as proof would yield you an exceedingly misleading picture. During those early years of the retail Internet scene, it was fairly easy for users to migrate to usage patterns where they were mostly downloading content; uploading content on a 14.4K modem would have been unreasonable. There was a natural tendency towards eyeball networks and content networks. However, these days, more people have "always on" Internet access, and may be interested in downloading larger things, such as services that might eventually allow users to download a DVD and burn it. http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/21/dvd-group-approves-restrictive-download-t o-burn-scheme/ This means that they're leaving their PC on, and maybe they even have other gizmos or gadgets besides a PC that are Internet-aware. To remain doggedly fixated on the concept that an end-user is going to download more than they upload ... well, sure, it's nice, and makes certain things easier, but it doesn't necessarily meet up with some of the realities. Verizon recently began offering a 20M symmetrical FiOS product. There must be some people who feel differently. So, do the "modulations" of your "access technologies" dictate what your users are going to want to do with their Internet in the future, or is it possible that you'll have to change things to accomodate different realities? ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.