Opsec wg also....about 2 years ago Ross Callon went to most NOGs to solicit input and I suppose now with Joel it'll be ongoing :) - merike On Feb 18, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:40:02 -0500 Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org> wrote:
And let me ask you this question, why do the operators have to go to the IETF? Many of us have, and tried. I can't think of a single working group chair/co-chair that's ever presented at NANOG and asked for feedback. If the IETF wants this to be a two way street actions would speak louder than words.
Without going into details, I have spoken at NANOG, and I've been a WG chair, an IAB member, and an AD. Randy has been an AD. I can think of several other ADs and IAB members who have frequently attended NANOG.
I'm not saying it's perfect -- far from it! -- but the issue isn't nearly that one-sided.
--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb