Here are some links about black holes.. The interesting thing about black holes is that nothing �should� come out of them, (according to Steven Hawking) but he (hawking) later revised his theory saying something DOES make it out of the black hole, information. This I believe is where management gets their ideas from, some place where random bits of the universe got tossed, everybody thought that those things were gone for good, but no� little bits of them leaked out. http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bh_home.html http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/NumRel/BlackHoles.html or perhaps you want to get info on BGP black holes http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=black++holes+hole+bgp&btnG=Search if I go to http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/ and enter _ black hole _ in the little search window, I get hundreds of results, if I use _ blackhole _ I get over a thousand -charles