I'm not sure Cogent is on any IXes? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Chase" <math@sizone.org> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 9:56:23 AM Subject: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders And when you go to figure out why that IP wont ping through Cogent on your exchange, and start troubleshooting but can't get any answers as to why things are bust... [ Clearly now an operational issue for NANOG. ] Purposely breaking routing and not being able to talk about why is going to set many orgs at odds with their basic operational charters. I expect that a paid service will work when it's provided, including help debugging their end. This is slightly different from a service provider, ostensibly you can go elsewhere to get service - but when you are a member of a nonprofit *IX (as we are with TorIX), things get a lot more complex. I imagine contract lawyers are going to be all over this. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/17/linx_snoopers_charger_gagging_order... (their typo in the url) /kc -- Ken Chase - math@sizone.org Guelph/Toronto Canada