Yo CJ! I was under the impression that although @home was currently allocate just part of the 24/8 space, that the entire space was RESERVED for future expansion of @home. Is this not true? Certainly no-one else is getting space from that block. In any case, a quick check of DejaNews shows that Nanog had this same exact discussion on March 13, 1996, so how about we drop it and just re-read the old messages? RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller 2680 Bayshore Pkwy, #202 Mountain View, CA 94043-1009 gary@internet-appliance.com Tel:+1(650)964-1186 Fax:+1(650)964-1176 On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 cjw@corp.home.net wrote:
@Home does not have a /8. Perhaps you should work just a little bit on your facts...
---CJ
From: "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com> Subject: RE: ARIN? Yo Patrick!
On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, I Am Not An Isp wrote:
> I do believe you are correct in your implication that @Home does not > utilize address space quite as efficiently as most traditional ISPs. > However, they are under a greater burden than your traditional ISP. Most > of the equipment they were forced to use in the "early days", and possibly > a good deal of it today, is not what I would call "optimal". They are > forced to allocate /24s to some cable routers no matter how few customers > there are on that router. Most do not understand classless IP, or even > basic subnetting. Etc., etc. If I downgrade my routers, do you think I can use this on my next ARIN application? I would have been embarrased to try it even when they got their address space.
> The point is, the people I know at @Home do try very hard to use their IP > space within reason. But there are some things they just can not do. I have no complaint with the people, I am just jealous.
BTW, their October 13, 1998 press release says they have 210K users. Their /8 has 16,777,216 IP addresses give or take a few hundred thousand. Not a bad packing ratio...
RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 2680 Bayshore Pkwy, #202 Mountain View, CA 94043-1009 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(650)964-1186 Fax:+1(650)964-1176
RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 2680 Bayshore Pkwy, #202 Mountain View, CA 94043-1009 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(650)964-1186 Fax:+1(650)964-1176