Re: Ranges announced by Level3 without permitions.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Alfa Telecom wrote:

> On 03/03/2011 03:25 PM, Brandon Ross wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Alfa Telecom wrote:
>> 
>>> Both ranges are from RIPE region and couldn't be announced from ARIN ASN 
>>> at all.
>> 
>> Your premise is incorrect.  Any block from any RIR can be announced by any 
>> ASN.
> 1) All routing data must be present at the RIPE DB. If you work with RIPE DB 
> you could see that webtools don't allow you to create route to ASN not from 
> RIPE region.
> 2) RIPE IP Usage policy don't allow to route RIPE IPs from non-RIPE region.

Your premise is still wrong.  Only networks that use the RIPE DB care 
about what's in the RIPE DB.  There is no requirement for Level 3 to use 
it.  There is no law that says they have to.

>>> We're sponsored LIR for both companies, I sent several emails to Level3 
>>> noc, made several calls but they still announce these ranges.
>> 
>> Why should they stop announcing them?  Do you believe they have been 
>> hijacked?  If these companies have decided to contract with another transit 
>> provider, you cannot stop them from doing so in this way.
>> 
> IPs are announced by Level3... I respect this company but looks like Level3 
> is scammed and currently announce without necessary permissions.

Again, do you believe these networks are hijacked?  If they are in 
legitimate use by the companies that they are allocated to in whois, then 
there is no scam.

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