Going back to the initial security problem identified by Williams, I also experienced something today. I guess he is right about that. I am behind a proxy and I just disabled the proxy for "Secure Web" which means HTTPS. Now guess what I was still able to access facebook while I was not able to access google. That clearly means there is something wrong. What do you guys think? Ghulam On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Bill.Pilloud <bill.pilloud@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this not the nature of social media? If you want to make sure something is secure (sensitive information), Why is it on social media. If you are worried about it being monetised, I think Google has already done that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel jaeggli" <joelja@bogus.com> To: "Jimmy Hess" <mysidia@gmail.com> Cc: <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 4:05 PM Subject: Re: Facebook insecure by design
On 10/2/11 15:43 , Joel jaeggli wrote:
On 10/2/11 15:25 , Jimmy Hess wrote:
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 08:38:36 PDT, Michael Thomas said:
I'm not sure why lack of TLS is considered to be problem with Facebook. The man in the middle is the other side of the connection, tls or otherwise.
Ooh.. subtle. :)
Man in the Middle (MITM) is a technical term that refers to a rather specific kind of attack.
In this case, I believe the proper term would be just "The man". [Or "Man at the Other End (MATOE)"]; you either trust Facebook with info to send to them or you don't, and network security is only for securing the transportation of that information you opt to send facebook.
alice sends charlie a message using bob's api, bob can observe and probably monetize the contents.
Yes, if Alice sends Bob an encrypted message that Bob can read, and
Bob turns out to be untrustworthy, then Bob can sell/re-use the information in an abusive/unapproved way for personal or economic profit.
charlie is probably untrustworthy, bob is probably moreso (mostly
^ trustworthy
because bob has more to lose than charlie), alice isn't cognizant of the implications of running charlie's app on bob's platform despite the numerous disclaimers she blindly clicked through on the way there.
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-JH