Anyway, I'm not willing to argue this with you. Take this as a statement. You can disagree right up until the tow truck takes your car away. You can still disagree.
Hear, hear! I'm hoping that this list won't degenerate into another emacs vs. vi, sendmail vs. qmail/exim/postfix/MTA du jour, or righteousness of popular anti-spam activities debate. I'm on enough other lists that do that as it is. Dean is right about this: agree to disagree. Accept responsibility for your actions, and if you truly think you're right, be willing to accept the consequences. But bickering about it isn't helping. Thought the goal of NANOG was about cooperation between network service providers, with network being the operative word. It would really be nice if the list could stay in keeping with its charter and AUP. Chris (who just wants to get back to network issues)