On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: : > : As NANOG has experienced during the last several meetings, in any network : > : used by a large number of people, there will be a certain percentage of : > : people which bring infected computers into the network. : > : evening the main press pavilion was offline for about 90 minutes. A : > : spokesman for Verizon said the company deliberately caused the : > : interruption as part of an effort to root out a more deep-seated : > : network problem, which the company said appeared to have been caused by : > : a virus carried by network devices provided by news organizations. In : > A buncha technically clueless newsgeeks brought infected micro$loth : > computers into a convention? Shocking! What's this world coming to??? : > Sounds like Verizon hired low-end netgeeks if they had to bring the : > network down to find these infected computers. : : I must have dozed off. What did Verizon have to do with the NANOG : meeting? See section 2, above. Neither is what Sean was getting at, I believe. What he seemed to be saying is that a few infected folks can cause temp networks at conventions to suffer major problems. Doesn't matter if it's at a news org conference or a NANOG conference. To be sure, though, you don't have to take the whole network down to find them. : > tisk-tisk-tisk Verizon. MCSE != good netgeek In fact, almost all the : > time, the two are mutually exclusive, disjoint sets of people... : : And sometimes "orthogonal" comes to mind. yes, most always. : And sometimes "congruent" does. very, very rarely. Keep 'em if you find 'em. I've worked with a couple in the past... Just an opinion. I'm known to have a few... :-) scott