On 30 Aug 2001, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Thu, 30 August 2001, Patrick Greenwell wrote:
I don't know what the goal of "basement dual-homers" is. I think that is the other thread, which I haven't been keeping up with.
My point was simply that the "basement dual-homers" probably want the same thing as the "people that matter", which is disparate paths to the Internet.
Maybe Bill Gates' or C. Michael Armstrong's homes have dual-entrance cable vaults, but I suspect most basement dual-homers don't have disparate paths to the Internet nor or really looking for that level of reliability.
Sean, I think there is a disconnect in definitions. Randy's orignal rant defined anyone that didn't have >= /20 worth of space and 2xDS3's as a potential "basement dual-homer." By that definition there are a large number of "basement dual-homers" out there.
So what do basement dual-homers really want? Most folks seem to be trying to protect themselves from the business practices of their provider, not necessarily the physical problems. Are we solving the wrong problem precisely?
Well, as a "basement dual-homer"(by Randy's definition), I want disparate paths, as well as insulation from poor service and/or the complete failure(as a business) of a given organization. Having suffered at the hands of various bandwidth and large colo providers over the years("yes your service was down for 3 hours, where would you like your check for $27.12 sent?") I would never in good conscience recommend that an organization which wishes to provide 24/7 availability single-home, and based on my experience I reject the notion that there are magic providers out there that never go down.