Thank you. Would you say it's fair to say that Lumen would be fine to reach the eyeballs based on the following.... I believe they peer locally with the Cogents\Lumens of the world. Looking at BGP.he.net AS9444 I found some HKT IPs and pinged from the Lumen looking glass====Hong Kong Telecommunications (HKT) LimitedTarget: 120.88.245.3 with 64 data bytes Success rate sent/received = (1/1) packetsRound-Trip min/avg/max = 1ms/1ms/1msAS38819 - HKT GPRS networkHONGKONG CHINA Ping results for: 14.0.183.254 (14-0-183-254.static.pccw-hkt.com)Target: 14.0.183.254 with 64 data bytes Success rate sent/received = (1/1) packets
Round-Trip min/avg/max = 2ms/2ms/2ms=====The only remotely 'far' one was===Hong Kong Telecommunications (HKT) Limited Mass Internettraceroute to 1.65.190.108 (1.65.190.108), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets1 gi0-0-0-18.221.rcr11.b061570-1.hkg02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.250.193) 0.861 ms 0.879 ms2 be3692.ccr21.hkg02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.80.33) 1.079 ms 1.159 ms3 be2414.rcr51.hkg01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.88.50) 1.772 ms 1.667 ms4 pccw.hkg01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.140.66) 8.791 ms 3.131 ms5 HundredGE0-3-0-0.br02.hkg08.pccwbtn.net (63.223.29.194) 3.234 ms 3.232 ms6 csl.te0-1-0-14.br02.hkg08.pccwbtn.net (63.217.66.30) 3.290 ms 3.367 ms7 * *8 * *9 * *10 1-65-190-108.static.netvigator.com (1.65.190.108) 47.453 ms 47.441 ms===Cogent has similar results.If anyone has access to IPs in HK and doesn't mind helping please ping from cogent or lumen LG.Just want to ensure I'm not missing anything here in my analysis.Thanks- Nanoguser99====
Hong Kong isn't that bad, PCCW Netvigator AS4760, HKBN AS9269, HGC AS9304 are all announcing their customer route throughout HKIXHKBN is one of the largest operator on the market too, and most of the ISP are willing to exchange traffic via IXOn Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 3:41 AM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:I think the biggest difference between what the IP transit providers have described is that PCCW is also a major middle-mile and last-mile provider in Hong Kong. You'll find their 100Mbps to gigabit class end user service in apartments, condos and office buildings throughout the city.The non-HK based transit providers that would be in a top-40 CAIDA ASRANK size are generally not operators of last mile connectivity within the city.On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 2:54 PM nanoguser99 via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:Nanog,Currently my organization uses PCCW which we pay through the nose for and I'm looking to cut them. This was put in place before me. I was informed that PCCW is "the carrier" in Hong Kong but based on my analysis I'm not sure that's the case. My analysis of carriers such as Lumen and Cogent put them on par with PCCW. Pings to random IPs in HK are reasonable fast on all of them, same with pings to cloud providers. Access to mainland is not a hard requirement but just to check they all had 300+ ms latency to known IPs in Shanghai and Tanjin.I know some regions such as Korea or Dubai are monopolized where the wrong carrier takes you on a far away path to get a few blocks down the street.I don't need anything special, just general DIA and good access to eyeballs and internet. I just wanted to see people's opinions here as APAC connectivity can be tricky.- Nanoguser99Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.