I've poked around trying to figure out how not to just dump these in the trash. isp-equipment seems to be dead, etc. They're obscure and NANOG's about the only group I would think of where ATM guys might still hang out. :-) Free to a good home: a small supply of Fore ATM OC3 fiber and copper cards, mostly PCA-200. Looks like about a dozen, more fiber than copper. Replies to me only. If you know of anyone who'd be interested, let me know. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.