"McBurnett, Jim" wrote:
I hate top posting, but I want to make sure to get this out of the way first. I was not trying to defend Microsoft. I meant to point out, JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT USING MICROSOFT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE SAFE! Bugs happen. Vulnerabilities happen. Worms happen. This worm has happened. Now that it has happened, it's impact is greater because of its install base. And solely for that reason. That's all I wanted to say. Why the worm happened and whether is should have happened are a completely different issues I was not trying to address. I do not plan on addressing them. People with more eloquence, more research in hand, and much, much more time to compose thoughtful essays have debated that endlessly for years now. I doubt my limited remarks on NANOG will move and hearts or win any minds who do not already agree with the classic, well-known arguments I would trot out one more time. But I'll respond to this mail anyway.
OK.. I have lurked enough on this one.. $60 Billion plus for microsoft.. and 600 millions lines of code. thousands of employee programmers...
No way MS has spent $60 billion on development. That's why they look soooo good, so much in sales versus the development costs. Or did you mispell "bazjillion?"
$1 million for *NIX less than a million lines of code. rewritten on a whim, and source given to millions.. Bugs will be found and squashed easier. Less code, more eyes. and less complex. Less market, less users, less interest for hackers
5 less than statements for *NIX and how many more statements for Micro$oft?
A pretty outlandish comparison with some broad characterizations and implicit assumptions. Where's the $1M for "UNIX" from? AT&T gave it away since they didn't think it was worth anything. Back then, vendors made money off of the hardware, the software was an incidental. (Sony makes the money selling you the DVD player, the pretty menus and configuration screens are just soft/firmware that comes with it with no real indpendent value... Now the soft/firmware on a TiVo or an X-Box... Maybe appliance software will develop independent value of its own someday too.) Oh, and I can rewrite the source to Solaris, a direct UNIX Sys V descendant, and they give it all away? I guess they forgot to send me my copy. Could I borrow yours? And send me your source to AIX while your at it too. And SCO's UnixWare? I'd like to look into this whole SCO versus IBM thing.
This is like trying to comparing the towing capacity of car to turbo diesal pickup.
OK, two things which are very easy to compare.
there is no comparison...
Uh, no, it's pretty easy to measure the power, torque, and many other capacities of interest for each vehicle and then do an objective comparison.
I don't care if MicroSoft spends $600 Million a year, there will always be bugs.
Sure will.
If a software package was perfect or a network was perfect how many of us would have jobs? Nothing in this world is perfect, and complaining about it does absolutely no good....
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