On Monday, February 17, 1997 9:51 AM, Todd Graham Lewis[SMTP:lists@reflections.mindspring.com] wrote: @ Jim, I really have to ask. @ @ Doesn't acknowledging them as TRUE root name servers serve as little more @ than fodder for The Man's giant propoganda machine? By referring to them @ as TRUE nameservers, aren't you just lending those bastards at the IANA et @ al. more credibility? After all, a noted net.koo^H^H^Hpersonality such as @ yourself must be careful which labels he gives institutions on the @ network. Others are surely likely to modify their estimation thereof in @ light of your opinions, are they not? I know I sure have been. @ @ __ @ Todd Graham Lewis Mindspring Enterprises tlewis@mindspring.com @ @ @ The people on the NANOG list seem to have missed much of the action for the past few months. I am not sure that can be quickly solved. TRUE Root Name Servers are Root Name Servers that do not also do double-duty as TLD Name Servers. The AlterNIC, Root 64, Root 128 and other movements pioneered the notion of TRUE Root Name Servers. The IANA and Network Solutions, Inc. are trying to play catch up. The U.S. Government via their NSF/InterNIC has been actively blocking the development of competing TLD registries by preventing companies from having entries in the Root Name Servers they operate. There is now a process in place to make sure this changes. I am sure you are going to see a lot of press about it starting tomorrow. (Today is a government holiday) As shown here on the NANOG list, people falll in line behind the U.S. Government and do what they tell them to do. Some people at the NSF would like people to think they are not involved. That is clearly not the case, Dr. George Strawn of the NSF is chair of the FNC and he was also a member of the IAHC. For companies that need to clearly show that the U.S. Government is standing in the way of progress, it is important to establish that an important group like NANOG follows the orders of the U.S. Government via the NSF/InterNIC. That was recently confirmed. If you like, you can probably do a survey. There is a little more than one year left on the InterNIC contracts with AT&T and Network Solutions, Inc. There is a lot of work to be done. Clearly, the next steps are to get IN-ADDR.ARPA in order. It is currently a mess. That would be a good challenge for NANOG to address. -- Jim Fleming Unir Corporation e-mail: JimFleming@unety.net JimFleming@unety.s0.g0 (EDNS/IPv8)