Hello Erik, Although I agree with you on many points I think its time people stop complaining and take action. My point was not to idly complain about the outsourcing trend and claim that protectionism is the answer but, to ask if there is a better way to deal with the long term trend for ALL of us. Boycotting is just one way to send a message rather than simply complaining. Your perception of Americans I think is very skewed by the media. You obviously did not read my post and wanted take a cheap shot. Many Americans like myself have always been fighting for equity, fairness and democracy from the beginning in all our activities. Try not to equate a people with what you read and hear in the media and realize they have much more diversity of opinion than is portrayed therein. I argue we BOTH American and international workers (that means you) need to change the system so that we are all treated fairly. I don't think this is an off the wall ideal. But to each his own. Hmmm. I had no idea there were only 2 networking companies, 1 database and 1 OS. =) With the rich competitive nature of the market I will continue to support companies which conform to a baseline of ethical business practice for all workers worldwide. With deepest respect, J Erik Haagsman <erik@we-dare.net> wrote:On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 03:53, Joseph wrote:
Its time for all American Tech workers to stand up and let our voices be heard.
Perhaps it's time instead to make sure you're good at what you do and try to be on the forefront of tech, rather than whining about how all those bad people from abroad are stealing your job. It's largely our own fault labour pricing in large outsourcing countries like India are so low, and now it's coming back to bite some of us.
We as world citizens need to come to grips with the fact that we must compete with workers internationally but we should be doing so on FAIR playing field.
Strangely people only start calling for a level, fair playing field when they feel something's threatening their own little piece of the cake. If most companies and governments we're happy to work for wouldn't have been undermining other people's economies for ages, we wouldn't have this problem and we would have a more or less fair playing field. But now practices that we still are making money of is making our companies stronger, but our workforce weaker, so in the long term probably our overall economy will be weaker. Anyone else see the irony here..?
Don't Support Outsourcing, Don't buy from companies that outsource US jobs.
Hmm...let me see now, no Juniper, no Cisco, no Oracle, no Microsoft, basically not a single vendor left...ah yes, we should just stop working completely and dismantle the Internet, that might just do the trick. Cheers, Erik -- --- Erik Haagsman Network Architect We Dare BV tel: +31(0)10 7507008 fax:+31(0)10 7507005 http://www.we-dare.nl --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.