I fear you will have to agree to disagree with just about anyone who runs a large mail server.
Read my other email on that one.
1) It is not a solution because it does not stop spam. In fact, it is easier to send spam through VZ's mail servers than just about anyone else's.
I was not discussing success, I was debating the fact that people should be able to use their ISP's servers for everything they want. Such limitations do in fact help, although they are not very bright and shiny to ISP's. In fact, ISP's hate them. I am surprised Verizon took this approach. How Verizon does anti-spam is another matter best left for another thread.
2) It is a problem because they do not allow things almost every other ISP does - things which are "standard" and things for which the anti-spam community has been fighting to put in place for many years.
Agreed. I can't and won't argue with that one. Gadi.