On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:06 PM, <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> wrote:
my assertion to Owen was that his views would apply directly to the folks under a standard RSA. My reading of the LRSA suggests that ARIN has a much narrower remit on recovery of resources covered by that document. the third camp was/is a much thornier patch of ground, fraught w/ peril if ARIN takes action on recovery, at least imho. #4, well that sounds like fruitful ground for inter-RIR coordination.
for example, if 75% of the total resource under ARIN administration is legacy, then 25% is covered by the standard RSA. Within the 75%, 6% of it is under LRSA and 15% of it is under the standard RSA.
if this characterization is in ballpark, then Owens view on reclaimation only holds for ~30% of the resource under ARIN administration.
The LRSA provides specific rights which could very likely preclude reclamation in some circumstances and result in the resources then remaining as-is with address holder, i.e., this would still prevent transfer contrary to the community policy but also prevent reissue. (this occurs in the LRSA under some circumstances recognizing the history of the legacy address space with the community). Okay, to try and get some numbers back into the thread: From Leslie's Registration Services report in Toronto, pages 6 and 9: <https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXV/PDF/Wednesday/Nobile_RSD.pdf> First, I note that the 700 number I used from memory for number of organizations was not correct; I gave the total signed, approved, and pending. The number 444 signed is what corresponds to the 6% under LRSA. Nicely, the actual numbers are in the report, so we see 6.49 /8 equivalents space under LRSA, out of the total legacy space of 73 /8 equivalents (page 9). The RSA space is 33 /8 equivalents, and total inventory is 106 /8 equivalents. (Randy, does this level of reporting suffice for your purposes?) So, recasting final numbers back to the original context: 63% (66.5/106) of the address space managed by ARIN is Legacy-not-under-agreement, and ARIN's action with this space is governed by the policies adopted by the community. ARIN clearly could be in a difficult situation if policies adopted needlessly result in impact to these legacy address holders. 6% (6.5/106) of the address space managed by ARIN is Legacy-under-LRSA, and has specific contractual language which may take precedence over community adopted policy (and could both prevent transfers from completing and reclamation from occurring). 31% (33/106) of the address space managed by ARIN is per-RSA, and ARIN's action with this space is clearly governed by the policies adopted by the community. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN