There¹s still a lot of websites that are not with the times. No ipv6 on CNN, FOX, or NBC news websites. Slashdot.org shame on you! Comcast and AT&T work, but not Verizon. No surprise there. Power company nope. I think CGN is fine for 99% of customers out there. Until the iPhone came out Verizon Wireless had natted all their blackberry customers and saved million¹s of IP¹s. Then Apple and Google blew a hole into that plan. Then again I¹m for IPv4 just running out and finally pushing people to adopt. The US Govt has done a better job of moving to IPv6 than private industry which frankly is amazing all things considered. Comcast is pushing over 1TBPS of IPv6 traffic, but I¹m sure that¹s mainly video from Youtube and Netflix. On 7/30/14, 9:45 AM, "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com> wrote:
The only actual residential data I can offer is my own. I am fully dual stack and about 40% of my traffic is IPv6. I am a netflix subscriber, but also an amazon prime member.
I will say that if amazon would get off the dime and support IPv6, it would make a significant difference.
Other than amazon and my financial institutions and Kaiser, living without IPv4 wouldn't actually pose a hardship as near as I can tell from my day without v4 experiment on June 6.
I know Kaiser is working on it. Amazon apparently recently hired Yuri Rich to work on their issues. So that would leave my financial institutions.
I think we are probably less than 5 years from residential IPv4 becoming a service that carries a surcharge, if available.
Owen
On Jul 29, 2014, at 22:42, Julien Goodwin <nanog@studio442.com.au> wrote:
On 29/07/14 22:22, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Jul 29, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote: In message <20140729225352.GO7836@hezmatt.org>, Matt Palmer writes:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 09:28:53AM +1200, Tony Wicks wrote: 2. IPv6 is nice (dual stack) but the internet without IPv4 is not a viable thing, perhaps one day, but certainly not today (I really hate clueless people who shout to the hills that IPv6 is the "solution" for today's internet access)
Do you have IPv6 deployed and available to your entire customer base, so that those who want to use it can do so? To my way of thinking, CGNAT is probably going to be the number one driver of IPv6 adoption amongst the broad customer base, *as long as their ISP provides it*.
Add to that over half your traffic will switch to IPv6 as long as the customer has a IPv6 capable CPE. That's a lot less logging you need to do from day 1.
That would be nice, but I¹m not 100% convinced that it is true.
Though it will be an increasing percentage over time.
Definitely a good way of reducing the load on your CGN, with the additional benefit that your network is part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
Being on the content provider side I don't know the actual percentages in practice, but in the NANOG region you've got Google/Youtube, NetFlix, Akamai & Facebook all having a significant amount of their services v6 native.
I'd be very surprised if these four together weren't a majority of any consumer-facing network's traffic in peak times.