People might want to be careful what binary you run in the terminal room if you're using ssh (or whatever). I happened to find this today while using them (extra junk snipped): % pwd /usr/home/nanog % ls -al ssh -rwxr-xr-x 1 nanog nanog 1218960 Jun 7 13:04 ssh % ./ssh -v SSH Version 1.2.22 [i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.6], protocol version 1.5. Standard version. Does not use RSAREF. [snipped] % which ssh /usr/local/bin/ssh % ls -al /usr/local/bin/ssh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 14 Jun 6 07:55 /usr/local/bin/ssh -> ../ssh/bin/ssh % ls -al /usr/local/ssh/bin/ssh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 Jun 6 07:55 /usr/local/ssh/bin/ssh -> ssh1 % ls -al /usr/local/ssh/bin/ssh1 -rws--x--x 1 root wheel 212952 May 20 09:20 /usr/local/ssh/bin/ssh1 % /usr/local/bin/ssh -v SSH Version 1.2.23 [i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.6], protocol version 1.5. Standard version. Does not use RSAREF. [snipped] Dot isn't in the path on these boxes, but you still might want to be careful anyway. Perhaps someone just brought over their own ssh binary, because they didn't trust the one here, or it could be something more malicious. I guess the moral of the story is to be careful about what you run on these machines. -jkk -- Jim Klossner - jkk@frontiernet.net http://www.frontiernet.net "VMS is about as secure as a poodle encased in a block of lucite... ...about as useful, too." -wendigo@pobox.com