I have tried some of the Garrett stuff in the lab. It's OK but I don't at all like their web interface or CLI. I echo some previous comments, it you want something cheap, flexible and fast enough then you can't beat a little Linux box.. -- Leigh Porter -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bulk - iName.com [mailto:frnkblk@iname.com] Sent: Wed 2/17/2010 12:01 AM To: 'Lorell Hathcock'; 'North American Network Operators Group' Subject: RE: Recommendations for router with routed copper gig-e ports? Not sure if this meets your needs, but here's some ruggedized stuff: http://www.garrettcom.com/routers.htm Sure you need GigE? Frank -----Original Message----- From: Lorell Hathcock [mailto:lorell@hathcock.org] Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:42 PM To: 'North American Network Operators Group' Subject: Recommendations for router with routed copper gig-e ports? All: I'm involved in a project where we are cutting over a WISP from being a single broadcast domain into the grownup real world of routing between tower nodes. Of course the equipment is all Mikrotik and the single broadcast domain was easy to implement, so that's why it was done this way. My problem on the redesign is I want to provide routed, copper gig-e ports at a reasonable price per port. My thought is to provide one copper gig-e port for all of the APs at a tower and a copper gig-e port for each backhaul to other towers (typically 2 to 4). On the core nodes, I want to have one fiber gig-e port for the internet connection. BGP would be implemented on the routers that connect to the internet. OSPF would be implemented on all of the backhaul ports. So number of routed, copper gig-e ports at each tower would be: 1 - AP network (need suggestion for cost effective gig-e switch) 2 to 4 - back haul ports 1 - internet port (on one out of every 4 towers or so) (and most likely fiber instead of copper) Does anyone have any suggestions? Sincerely, Lorell Hathcock OfficeConnect.net | 832-665-3400 x101 (o) | 713-992-2343 (f) | lorell@officeconnect.net Texas State Security Contractor License | ONSSI Certified Channel Partner Axis Communications Channel Partner | BICSI Corporate Member Leviton Authorized Installer