On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Todd R. Stroup wrote:
John,
I've been silent on this list for quite a while but it has always erked me the way you insist on proving your network knowledge about "How to Build Networks". Since you feel the need to criticize those who have built networks that you consider inferior why don't you share some of the IP backbones that you have worked for and helped create.
(And yes, I do take it personally.)
T..S
Todd, you know that I can not give any details about most of the network buildouts I have been involved with. That's just fine though. I think the root of what erks you most is that you screwed the pooch when you bet against me, period, the end. It might also have something to do with the fact that you chose your alliances poorly. No matter. If you really must know a few networks I have been involved with (and left on good graces, I might add) here you go: Digital Equipment Corporation (back when it was still DEC) CitiCorp Hoescht Cellonese Siemens Rolm MacGuire Nuclear Power plant (and, yes, they have on-net connectivity) Catabwa Nuclear Power plant (same here) Duke Power Microsoft Corporation Walnut Creek CDROM (as in CDROM.COM) Blockbuster, Inc The Walt Disney Company Seagate Corporation Fidelity Investments First Union National Bank Wachovia Corporation The State of North Carolina The University of North Carolina at Charlotte The State of Tennessee The University of Tennessee at Knoxville The State of Ohio ..and yes, even The Ohio State University The list above was on my resume' before I was even your age, Son. When was the last time you worked inside the Pentagon? (and I'm not talking about the mall) Never? Oh, too bad. It's el-nifty-neato. The moral of this story is: Don't piss in the wind or you will end up all wet and smelly. Had you shown the curtosy of _attempting_ to flame me privately, I would have shown you the same when I shut you down. Since you just had to go to the list, I have returned the favor. This is the end of this little debate Todd. I did not personally attack you, no matter if you took my remarks about some network entity personally. You attacked me personally. You crossed the line. I only hope that I am the only one who has lost all respect for you, for your sake. --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc