How have we gone this long of a conversation without someone from FIOS stepping in and setting the record straight? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Maimon" <jmaimon@jmaimon.com> To: "North American Networking and Offtopic Gripes List" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 1:47:17 PM Subject: Short-circuited traceroutes on FIOS Anyone have an idea why there are some destinations that on residential verizon fios here in NY area terminate right on first external hop? There seems to be a CDN common denominator here. On other networks with more typical BGP paths and traceroutes, users are reporting issues accessing these sites. C:\Users\Home>tracert www.usfoods.com Tracing route to statics.usfoods.com [205.132.109.90] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 3 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.18.24.1 2 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms 192.168.2.33 3 17 ms 6 ms 3 ms statics.usfoods.com [205.132.109.90] Trace complete. C:\Users\Home>tracert atworkhp.americanexpress.com Tracing route to atworkhp.americanexpress.com.akadns.net [139.71.19.87] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.18.24.1 2 3 ms 4 ms 23 ms 192.168.2.33 3 21 ms 11 ms 5 ms atworkhomepage2.americanexpress.com [139.71.19.87] Trace complete. C:\Users\Home>tracert portal.discover.com Tracing route to e14577.x.akamaiedge.net [23.51.172.254] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 3 ms 1 ms 18 ms 172.18.24.1 2 21 ms 7 ms 6 ms 192.168.2.33 3 4 ms 2 ms 2 ms a23-51-172-254.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [23.51.172.254] Trace complete.