At 12:30 PM 3/14/99 -0800, Randy Bush wrote: [SNIP - Randy's traceroutes] Thanx Randy, but if you had actually read the thread instead of trying to pounce on a possible error (just like Michael), you would have seen in my first post that I stated a traceroute shows both IPs have the same last router hop and are likely on the same subnet. Add to that the fact that there are load balancing techniques which use duplicated IP addrs in different geographical regions and you once again have no proof - just an implication. Before anyone else pounces on this, YES, I believe it is likely that these two machines (if it is two machines) are sitting next to one another and the original poster should get more diverse DNS. The point of my post is that people who just look at IP addresses (or a single traceroute ;) and make sweeping generalizations might find their assumptions disproven. Sorry about being pedantic, but I've dealt with one too many users who just assume stuff based on tools like traceroute without understanding the underlying technology (asymmetry, load balancing, etc.). I really think anyone on this list should *not* have to be educated the way lusers do. TTFN, patrick I Am Not An Isp - www.ianai.net ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs, <http://www.ispf.com> "Think of it as evolution in action." - Niven & Pournelle