Thanks Stephen - -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:57 PM To: todd glassey; Dan Hollis; Jack Bates Cc: Kuhtz, Christian; Michael Loftis; Robert A. Hayden; North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes Subject: Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Thus spake "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
By the way - the big one these days is the claim from the Tier-2/3 player that they are really subject to the same rules that the Tier-1 players are and that simply isn't true - nor should it be.
There is no technical or legal difference between tier-1 and tier-2/3 service providers. Heck, NANOG has been collectively working on it for years and we haven't even come up with definitions for the various "tiers" yet. The distiction is between those who provide network transport and those who provide application services across that network. The former can seek refuge as common carriers, but the latter clearly cannot. I pity the ABA if you really are their liaison to our industry. Worse, I pity our industry for what kinds of ridiculous laws we'll soon be subjected to. S Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking