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From: "david raistrick" <drais@icantclick.org> To: "Andrew Kirch" <trelane@trelane.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 3:05:10 PM Subject: Re: Facebook down!! Alert! On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, david raistrick wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
No, the majority does not define what "operational" means. Facebook is not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power
not a mission critical internet resource -to you-
to be clear, I could give a damn about if we talk about this on nanog or not. (and I agree that outages is the right place to announce outages, and outage-discuss to discuss them).
my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure content provider, and (much like, say, google) provide both content AND service. I have dependancies on facebook's (as do many many others who perhaps dont yet hire folks who even know what nanog is but someday will) services. without them, my teams can't work and my employeer loses signiicant figures of revenue per day.
so facebook is very much operationally relevant for my network, and that these mixed content/service providers will be more and more relevant as time goes on and we as a community should figure out how to deal with their transition from pure content to perhaps some day pure service.
This thread proves too me yet again that nanog is the internets equivalent of a giant panty raid. This isn't the outages list & I am rather annoyed that we must discuss junk social media sites such as facebook. Just because you are panicing does not mean that the thousands of people on this list give a flying rats ass that facebook is down! Can we please discuss relevant topics such as running networks? (for instance NOT @#$@#$ing FACEBOOK!) This list over the last year has just gone soo far downhill that I am most likely going to unsubscribe from it as I don't get any technical benefit from the garbage that is discussed on this list 99.999999999999999% of the time. --Tammy -- Tammy A Wisdom The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org ****************************************************************************** Disclaimer: This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. Please inform us immediately and destroy the original transmittal. Thank you for your cooperation. ******************************************************************************