Indeed, I agree. I remember earlier times when there were serious concerns over serious traffic bottlenecks, primarily due to the lag in speed-of-bits-on-the-wire technology ramp up. I recall the NSFnet backbone at a whopping 56kb trunk speed prior to the node transition(s)! We, collectively, have left those days behind for the most part. Now, it's just a matter of "five-pound-bag" engineering. I'm quite proud and happy to see this experiment succeed to the point where we have the "problems" we do. ;-) Cheers, - ferg -- Patrick W Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote: Today, even free NAPs pass gigabits of traffic and do it robustly. If you have counter examples, I would be interested in seeing them. A lot of traffic passes on NAPs, and I'd hate to see any of it not get to where it was going. -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net