True enough Jorge, however, we need full-orbed perspective here....it's not merely beating a dead horse; as far as topic goes, it is purely edification in the nth degree, manner, fashion. This is the lingua franca of this forum, and those who chose to read it, or not. Not merely pointed dialogue or geek speaks for the consummate net head ideologue. After all, iron sharpens iron. Demagoguery gives rise to elitism. No demonization here. You're ok. :-)
I know, I don't mind the dialogue but IMHO besides trying to define which is the best way to seal a manhole, I'd rather see a more constructive discussion from an operational perspective. I really doubt that the big guys who own the fibers will make a rational decision about how to build their networks reading NANOG when the underlaying problem is not just technical or operational. For example, based on the experience with this outage, what's was out, how many users were affected, how the network operator's community handled the issue, what information was available, what kind of communications we used, what we did wrong, what we did right. BTW, now I know where to get a good padlock for my shack :-) Cheers Jorge