bmanning@ISI.EDU writes: > The 400 local ISP's in the NAP metro area who want a common > exchange point among themselves. They then make a great > collective which can bargin with a long-haul carrier for > transit. That's why we pulled the PCH together last winter, for California-area ISPs... T1 access to the SF NAP wasn't available, so we did it all through a frame cloud. It's basically all just BGP through Ciscos. Seems to work fine. Just like a big peering point, but little. :-) It was originally our goal to use a collective-bargaining approach to try for non-transit peering with MCI, Sprint, etc. over MAE West, since we're on the MAE West fiber, but we haven't gotten around to it yet, and I'm afraid it may be too late, now. We've all already got long-haul transit taken care of, though, and we're just doing (and just looking for) non-transit peering, which is probably the only thing that would still make anyone listen to us. In case anyone out there is in Pac Bell country and interested in joining, we only charge $250/12K CIR/year, and you can get more details by mailing me or Chris Alan (calan@electriciti.com). -Bill Woodcock ________________________________________________________________________________ bill woodcock woody@zocalo.net woody@applelink.apple.com user@host.domain.com