Hi ! some of our customers complain about really bad routing to www.apple.com As this traceroute shows, the problem can be somewhere at bbnplanet. Since i don have any account there, i cant see the routing from bbnplanet to us. I seems to be asymetric routing or something else... Starting from Hop 13 the times are unacceptable... Does anybody have any idea ? 1 ipgate (194.97.200.22) 5.637 ms 5.048 ms 3.847 ms 2 Stuttgart.seicom.NET (194.97.192.250) 5.589 ms 10.293 ms 5.578 ms 3 Frankfurt.seicom.NET (194.97.193.10) 10.303 ms 14.787 ms 10.394 ms 4 de-cix.seicom.NET (194.97.193.5) 10.520 ms 18.209 ms 10.508 ms 5 Frankfurt.topnet.DE (194.97.192.42) 23.773 ms 11.047 ms 20.590 ms 6 frankfurt.topnet.de (194.97.110.185) 16.412 ms 29.752 ms 22.646 ms 7 Serial3-2.GW1.FFT1.ALTER.NET (146.188.128.21) 112.821 ms 126.477 ms 136.s 8 Fddi0-0.CR2.FFT1.Alter.Net (146.188.31.226) 125.727 ms 121.155 ms 101.18s 9 512.Hssi4-0.CR2.LND1.Alter.Net (146.188.3.90) 199.711 ms 125.035 ms 146.s 10 * Fddi5-0.BR1.LND1.Alter.Net (146.188.30.225) 90.574 ms 85.898 ms 11 167.Hssi4-0.CR1.TCO1.Alter.Net (137.39.69.226) 222.667 ms * 174.701 ms 12 411.atm10-0.br2.tco1.alter.net (137.39.13.21) 186.230 ms 182.400 ms 236.s 13 C128.bbnplanet.net (137.39.250.14) 244.497 ms 205.937 ms 184.169 ms 14 * * * 15 * paloalto-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.10) 2755.807 ms * 16 paloalto-cr4.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.204) 2721.680 ms * 2754.263 ms 17 * appl.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.30) 2735.794 ms 2768.584 ms 18 * * tre.apple.com (205.180.175.29) 2685.547 ms 19 www.apple.com (17.254.3.28) 2697.392 ms * * Our AS is 5549, the Source IP is either 194.97.200.30 or 195.254.23.1 The first Net is announces as a /16 from our former upstream, we have 194.97.192.0/18 The second block has no super-route, but is splitted between us and another isp. We have 195.254.0.0/17 Winfried Haug