In a message written on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 02:32:24PM -0800, Tony Hain wrote:
So did you believe him and stop participating? Seriously, the -ONLY- way the IETF can be effective is for the ops community to provide active feedback. If you don't provide input, don't be surprised when the output is not what you want.
Oh yes, because he's not the only one who's said that to me (although he was the most direct), and because others I know in the operator community have gotten the same response. The sad fact is for most operators it is easier to convince your vendor to generate a propretary feature and solve your problem; hoping they will back port it through the IETF so it is a standard. How many years did HSRP have to exist before VRRP was defined? And let me ask you this question, why do the operators have to go to the IETF? Many of us have, and tried. I can't think of a single working group chair/co-chair that's ever presented at NANOG and asked for feedback. If the IETF wants this to be a two way street actions would speak louder than words. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/