From srh@merit.edu Fri Sep 21 08:40:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8LCe3N05179 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:40:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from srh@merit.edu) Received: from backin5.merit.edu (backin5.merit.edu [198.108.60.28]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2B45DDDE; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:40:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Susan Harris To: Leo Bicknell Cc: nanog-support@merit.edu Subject: Re: Checking visitors entering your facility In-Reply-To: <20010920201840.A79329@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 2302 Lines: 60 As concerned as we all are by recent threats to U.S. security, we ask that you discuss only operational aspects of the problems on the NANOG list. See the NANOG list AUP: http://www.nanog.org/aup.html We thank you for your cooperation in helping to maintain the content and quality of the NANOG mailing list. Susan Harris, Ph.D. Merit Network/Univ. of Mich. On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Leo Bicknell wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:54:07PM -0400, Richard Welty wrote: > > seriously, do you have any idea who is emptying your trash basket? do you > > really think that the bean counters took that sort of thing into > > consideration when they selected the firm who does that work? > > This reminds me of a pet peeve. Many business use services where > they provide boxes in your office and come around periodically and > shred / recycle them. Many businesses find these more economical > than maintaining large shredders on prem. > > These sound safe. They shred it in front of a company rep, so you > can see your papers turn into bits. That said, there are a number > of expected, and unexpected attacks: > > 1) Someone can take the whole box (say overnight), or pick the > lock on a box. > > 2) A string with something sticky (say gum) can retrieve papers > from a locked box. > > 3) I have personally witnessed one incident where while empting > the unit into the shredder on the loading dock (in front of a > company rep) a good number of papers were blown away in a strong > wind. > > 4) I have yet to see an office where when the company collects, > a company rep follows them receptical to receptical. They > generally dump them into a big hopper, and could take papers > along the way. > > So, if you're going to use them, at least have a company rep follow > the person from box to box to make sure there is no tampering. > Dump them often, so there are few papers in there, and little > opportunity for the night staff to take the box or fish some papers > out of it. > > I guess it's better than nothing, but companies really should buy > shred-it-right-now type shredders. > > -- > Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org > Systems Engineer - Internetworking Engineer - CCIE 3440 > Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org >