Subject: Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Date: Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:56:37PM +0000 Quoting Paul Vixie (vixie@isc.org):
:-).
to be clear, the old pre-web T1 era internet did not have much content but what content there was, was not lopsided. other than slip and ppp there weren't a lot of networks one would call "access" and a smaller number of networks one would call "content". i am not wishing for that, i like the web, i like content, i know there will be specialized networks for access and content. but i also think (as jim gettys does) that we ought to be able to get useful work done without being able to reach the whole internet all the time. that's going to mean being able to reach other mostly-access networks in our same neighborhoods and multitenant buildings and towns and cities, directly, and by name. it does not mean being able to start facebook 2.0 out of somebody's basement, but it does mean being able to run a personal smtp or web server in one's basement and have it mostly work for the whole internet and work best for accessors who are close by and still work even when the "upstream" path for the neighborhood is down.
Now I seem to have got time enough to fully agree with you. The next facebook will start in a low-price datacenter. These facilities did not exist as products before, and it can be argued that the access/content separation does drive that market -- as long as I had working Internet (as opposed to access class "Internet" ) at home, I had no use for a colo. Still, the centralization of content into a few networks does raise a number of issues -- mostly regarding stability. Do note here that several factors negatively impact stability, be they technical, economical or legal. Peter Löthberg long ago advocated a network interconnection model that was pretty local (and I believe he still does). Peer often and everywhere. That would take care of packets getting through (as long as we all have unique addresses to point at; v6 fixes this) The services that take the Net from being a graph problem for nerds with BGP CLI access into what it has become need to undergo similar fine-graining to keep up. Oh, sorry, got carried away. -- Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668 My life is a patio of fun!