I also think the complexities, requirements, tolerances, etc. of an EPC are also being understated in the thread. The difference being is that I am aware (and stated as such) that I'm understating Netflix's usage. The other side doesn't know how particular EPCs can be. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Baird" <joshbaird@gmail.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net> Cc: "Michael Thomas" <mike@mtcc.com>, "nanog group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 7:22:50 AM Subject: Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile? I think Netflix's usage of AWS is being understated here. On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 6:29 AM Mike Hammett < nanog@ics-il.net > wrote: There's a big difference between a website (admittedly a complex one) and a mobile core. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Michael Thomas" < mike@mtcc.com > To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 3:54:57 PM Subject: Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile? On 1/26/22 11:11 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
On 1/26/22 17:10, Tom Beecher wrote:
Those folks also tend to learn hard lessons about what happens when the Magic Cloud provider fails in a way that isn't possible to anticipate because it's all black box.
Saving 12 months of opex $ sounds great, except when you lose 18 months of opex $ in 2 days completely outside of your ability to control.
I don't disagree.
What this does, though, is democratize access into the industry. For a simple business model that is serving a small community with a handful of eyeballs, not trying to grow forever but put food on the table, it's somewhere to start.
Didn't Netflix for the longest time run on AWS? I imagine if I were talking to a VC these days and said the first thing I was going to do is rack up a bunch of servers, I'd get laughed at. Cloud makes sense until it doesn't make sense. Just like everything else. Mike