On 7/11/09 12:47 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Given that you said AHBL requires two weeks to remove good IP addresses unless there is an "established contact", I'll be sure never to use said list. Suppose my business partner gets listed? Am I to ruin our relationship for two weeks because you are busy or don't like the fact we don't pay you? We didn't pay you to list us either.
Actually, if its a simple issue with a proxy or trojan, if you use the removal tool, provided the IP comes back clean from our tester, you are removed within 12-24 hours. If it requires manual intervention, yeah, its going to take longer. Our original idea was to base removal time on how long the listing was in the AHBL. If you hosted and gladly accepted money from a spam spewer for a year, and only decided to terminate them after they didn't pay, you'd be listed for somewhere in between 6 months to a year. Those two weeks are our buffer for seeing if said spam source is really gone, or just shut off long enough to fool us. We've been lied to so many times, its hard to justify doing instant removals on request. Further, there is such thing as a local whitelist of IP addresses.
Besides, there are plenty of useful blacklists with very low FP rates who are responsive. Why use one that has high FP and is unresponsive?
*shrugs* Thats up to you. I never held a gun to your head telling you to use the AHBL.
Running a blacklist sucks. It's got to be one of the hardest jobs for a white-hat to do on the 'Net. But if you don't like it, don't do it. Doing it then complaining about it after is .. silly.
I'm not complaining. People talk shit about Michelle, and yes, I will get involved. She's a friend of mine, and a fellow DNSbl maintainer. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org