Robert E.Seastrom wrote:
OK, not really "in the core", but the subject made you look at least. :)
I'm interested in people's experiences with consumer-grade routers functioning in non-NAT mode; that is to say, running PPPoE to the ISP and routing a /29 or a /28. A sane filtering language and stateful firewall that can operate in non-NAT mode is a plus.
I have changed from directly PPPoE to Linux. It was an experiment only, but the box still stays here and I still have to use it from time to time. I have changed again. For a friend a had to connect a portable to the internet. I choose the Seimens Gigaset 105. I have seen that box with differnt names again but it seems not to be to widespread. I literally grilled the first box. It was sitting on top of a wardrobe. Friday it worked. Saturday not so shure. Monday the firealarm went off. The box was silently replaced by the wender. The new one had a new software version with new bugs, mustly about the wireless part. The ethernet part works fine for a pharmacy with five computers. They use only NAT and PPPoE and they use it as access point for the laptop. They dont dare to connect the laptop to their pharmacy system not even for printing. The box is stable now - but I would not choose it again. But it tought me I need a router too. I choose a GrandStream ATA-486. The box is a VoIP gateway for old analog phones. That is why I choose it. It did not work behind my old linux router (IBM 486-SCL/II 66 MHz) guess why? Too slow! The ATA is a NAT Router, that is why I choose it. It replaced my linux router and works fine since then. Problems: It breaks from time to when my ISP forced disconnect hits every 24 hours. Mostly works but sometimes I have to reset it manually. It breaks traceroute. I dont know if it always did. But there could have been an automatic software update. It could have happened then Experimenting, I have used the box as router. I have used the box with both PPPoE and DHCP. It only does NAT. Now I am looking dor a real router. The CISCO PIX would be my choice if I had the money and if CISCO was a bit more adult. But seeing them mudwrestling now, having experienced first hand how difficult and expensive it is to get updates that copany is out of question. My next choice probably will be some kind of linux box that is supported but that I can fix it I ever need too. I am still using my linux router. Mostly it is a server now. For me their support is great: http://www.fli4l.de/ http://www.eisfair.org If I did not speak german, I dont know if I chose it. But my box did run for years without me looking at. I know quite some people who use it without ever looking after the box
My experiences with Linksys (and Netscreen, which isn't really at the price point I wanted anyway) have caused me to rip out substantial amounts of my already insufficient hair.
Have a look at HP. Their support is great. I could get all my updates for free. Their downloadable handbooks, free, were good. I never had any problems with them.
"Cisco 1700 series" or "Cisco 2600XM" would be nice answers if their price had the decimal point moved one place to the left. Linux or other non-vendor-supplied firmware, while cool, represents an unacceptable support load for my application.
The support load for CISCO will be much higher than for the linux box. Dont forget their red-tape departement :)
Any thoughts?
http://www.nat32.com/nat32e/htm/dg834g.htm Overview The Netgear DG834G is a combined DSL Modem, NAT Firewall/Router, 4-port 10/100 Ethernet Switch and 802.11b/g Access Point housed in a rather large (26cm x 17cm) plastic case. The device can be wall-mounted to improve WLAN range, and an external antenna can be connected if needed. Internally, the DG834G contains a 150 MHz MIPS 4KEc CPU running Embedded Linux, the source code for which is available Note that the D-Link G604T uses the same CPU and OS, so it most likely has very similar features and performance.
---Rob
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