I am very glad to see another joint meeting. I think this was an excellent idea and worked out very well for both organizations the first time. I am sad to see it in Chicago. I realize ARIN/NANOG had to organize this some time ago, probably before Mayor Daley bulldozed Meigs field in the middle of the night without warning to the FAA (or anyone else). FWIW, AOPA has organized a boycott of Chicago until Meigs field is restored to operational status. This might be considered off-topic, but I know several ISPs that depend on General Aviation to get personnel and parts to sites in emergencies. Meigs field was the closest GA airport to downtown Chicago. In fact, it is basically _IN_ downtown Chicago, within sight of Sears Tower (even some of the lower floors). As such, it is not unlikely that mayor Daley's act of terrorism (done in the name of security, by the way) has operational impact. Hopefully by October, Meigs will be operational and this will be moot. However, if it is not, it will be very difficult for me to bring myself to attend. (If it were anything less than ARIN/NANOG, I simply would not attend). If anyone wants more information about the destruction of Meigs field, please see http://www.aopa.org. Please send any comments/questions to me off-list. I suspect the rest of the group doesn't want to hear the flames/etc. Owen (donning nomex now)