From list-admin@merit.edu Sat Nov 4 15:13:10 1995 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 12:48:36 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon <michael@memra.com> X-Sender: michael@okjunc.junction.net To: Hans-Werner Braun <hwb@upeksa.sdsc.edu> cc: Mike <mn@tremere.ios.com>, nathan@netrail.net, nanog@merit.edu, D.Mills@cs.ucl.ac.uk Subject: Re: links on the blink (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199511041859.KAA08467@upeksa.sdsc.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.951104123440.12997A-100000@okjunc.junction.net>
On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Hans-Werner Braun wrote:
I will not go into a point by point rebuttal here, even though I generally do not subscribe to your arguments. I am not planning on "winning" here, I just want to get the issues on the table and evaluate the solution space. Just let me ask you, as a customer who fairly frequently experiences 10% packet loss between major Internet locations across major service providers (no mom and pop shops in the middle or at the end points), how would you suggest I deal with that?
Uh... Ignore it? 10% packet loss is quite within the normal range of parameters for a packet switching network such as the Internet. If you want 0% packet loss, you can lease your own private point-to-point lines.
Uh... Michael, when we were running the NSFNET, as Hans-Werner and many readers of this list are well aware, we did _not_ accept 10% packet loss on any link or across the network. These problems stayed with the NSFNET NOC until resolution by the provider, MCI. We only considered -0%- loss to be acceptable. Sorry if others also responded to this, Steve Richardson/Merit
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