DO> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:02:51 -0800 DO> From: Douglas Otis DO> > Hmmmm. BATV-triggered bounces. Virus triggers forged bounce which in DO> > turn triggers "your DSN was misguided" bounce. Perhaps the bandwidth DO> > growth of the '90s will continue. ;-) DO> DO> BATV should not trigger any bounce as this only changes the local-part of DO> the bounce-address (a.k.a return-path). BATV allows quick rejection of the DO> session when a spoof is detected before any message is exchanged. This I've read the spec. DO> should alleviate your concerns about bandwidth. It would also depreciate I usually don't use humor-related smileys when I'm worried. DO> this tactic and further reduce related traffic. Being sensitive about DO> spoofed DSNs, one would expect to hear accolades for BATV rather than DO> berating. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know their DSNs are misplaced? Or does that only apply to viruses and worms? ;-) So much for "be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you accept". Yes, BATV helps block the errant DSNs. It's just a shame that we seem to be shifting responsibility to the recipient, treating the symptom instead of the disease. Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita ________________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: davidc@brics.com -*- jfconmaapaq@intc.net -*- sam@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter.