Thanks, this seems far more cost effective. But what about configuration, is it easy enough to configure? I'm told it must be simple to config and understand and if possible web based (im told because I may not always be available they want their basic IT staff to be able to understand and if need be make changes - which that alone scares me none of them understand anything other than windows) Thanks for all the suggestions On 5/3/20, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
If you were to outfit them with three chassis of Calix\Occam B6-252s, you'd be under $25k for the whole thing and get ADSL2+ speeds. You would need most of a rack to do it.
Other platforms may or may not be more cost effective or a better solution. Just throwing the idea out there.
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From: "Nick Edwards" <nick.z.edwards@gmail.com> To: "Jeremy Austin" <jhaustin@gmail.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 12:21:17 AM Subject: Re: alternative to voip gateways
The huts or cabins whatever you want to call them, are right behind the admin building at entrance, so first is about 300 meters and the furtherest is just under 1 mile
Cost will be an issue, Im sure I will have no problems if I have to install a full rack of gateways and another full of dslams if it costs 150K, over something 1/5th the size in one rack that will cost 200k - since the company is not charging them for internet or voice.
On 5/2/20, Jeremy Austin <jhaustin@gmail.com> wrote:
What’s the average loop length? Grandstream is probably OK to 5+ kfeet but
you will lose CID before that.
As the low cost option don’t expect them to be trouble-free (or have particularly good vendor support), but they might work in your application
if cheap is what makes sense.
My $.02
Jeremy Austin
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 10:11 PM Andrey Slastenov <a.slastenov@gmail.com> wrote:
Look at MSAN solution. Like Huawei UA5000 or similar solutions from other
vendors.
Regards, Andrey
2 мая 2020 г., в 07:21, Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards@gmail.com> написал(а):
I'm looking at a new sister company we just took over, their remote village has 1700 analogue phone lines to the workers huts, but they go
nowhere past the MDF.
The office runs voip, now i'm told i have to get phones to the workers
because the <lots of explicit words> AKA previous owners of that business stopped the build when they ran into financial problems.
So my plan is to utilize the existing many miles worth of copper pairs.
I'm looking at throwing them into Versa Dslams that use pppoe pass through, throw in a mikoTik 1036 as pppoe server, and we got spare R710 i can use as radius server, and by my limited knowledge this works.
OK data done, but... now all those pots out lines need to go somewhere
that can handle 1700 or more lines, I am looking at either grandstream
48 port FXS gateways or sangoma vega 50 ports (which Ill use as 48 so theres a 1:1 match with dslams) the vega 3050 probably wont be used because they are more than twice the price of grandstream.
But this all results in a sh1te load of 48 port gateways (power is not
a concern), but wondering if there is another solution that is more cost effective? Seems the regular NEC's Siemens and so on might have an option but I can imagine it will be far more expensive than a bunch
of individual gateways.
This project is in my mind workable, but i've not done such a thing on
a large scale. Those who have experience in this field care to chime in? is my method
acceptable or not for such a project size?
most pbx's I've done are only few hundred analogue lines where gateways are more suited and definitely more cost effective, at all our locations we use freepbx which works perfectly, and we know the beefyness of the box we'll need to install to handle this load, thats not a problem if we go down the gateway method.
thoughts?
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