For some reason my previous email was empty. What I wrote: "Some of these numbers are largely inflated... e.g. Teksavvy at 937,855 estimated users. How can they have 937,855 users if they "only" have 686,848 IPv4 (https://bgp.he.net/AS5645)? Also, Allstream/Zayo AS15290 has a lot of IPs but it's mostly corps/govs. So it's a mix of inflated and false positives. Eric" Eric On October 2, 2017 at 4:15:53 PM, Filip Hruska (fhr@fhrnet.eu) wrote: Hi, There are various reasons that might be causing this: * Lots of VPNs on OVH network * OVH offers "desktop-as-a-service" and from what I understand it's quite popular * OVH is also a home ISP - just in France though; but not sure if/how APNIC separated OVH as an ISP and OVH as a server provider. I think it's all under the same ASN (might be wrong though) * There are some scrapers on the OVH network - definitely not half a million though Best Regards, Filip Hruska Dne 10/2/17 v 22:05 Stephen Fulton napsal(a):
Hi Jack,
As OVH is a data centre, I find that extraordinary if eyeballs were the cost. VPN's may be popular but that seems excessive. Probably bots of some sort, scraping the internet.
-- Stephen
On 2017-10-02 3:57 PM, Jacques Latour wrote:
Hi all!
I'm working on our IPv6 and DNSSEC adoption report for Canada and the data I use comes largely from APNIC (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/dnssec/CA) and (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/CA).
Labs.APNIC has a pretty cool system to measure this kind of stuff by deploying specially crafted google ads, see "How Big is that Network?" https://labs.apnic.net/?p=526, and APNIC is able to assess the population behind a network based on ad placement distribution. See https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA for Canada.
The question I have is why does OVH come #6 with an estimated population of 1,480,927 behind its ASN? Remember these are actual placement of ads. Should I count those users as part of my stats?
Rank ASN AS Name CC Users (est.) % of country % of Internet Samples 1 AS812 ROGERS-CABLE - Rogers Cable Communications Inc. CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 5,420,034 16.72 0.16 555,718 2 AS577 BACOM - Bell Canada CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 4,474,012 13.8 0.132 458,722 3 AS6327 SHAW - Shaw Communications Inc. CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 3,708,414 11.44 0.109 380,225 4 AS852 ASN852 - TELUS Communications Inc. CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 2,914,405 8.99 0.086 298,815 5 AS5769 VIDEOTRON - Videotron Telecom Ltee CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 2,189,946 6.76 0.065 224,536 6 AS16276 OVH CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 1,480,927 4.57 0.044 151,840 7 AS15290 ALLST-15290 - Allstream Corp. CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 1,272,374 3.93 0.038 130,457 8 AS855 CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant Regional Communications, Inc. CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 1,211,485 3.74 0.036 124,214 9 AS7992 COGECOWAVE - Cogeco Cable CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 1,112,002 3.43 0.033 114,014 10 AS5645 TEKSAVVY - TekSavvy Solutions, Inc. CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 967,401 2.98 0.029 99,188 11 AS11260 EASTLINK-HSI - EastLink CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 695,598 2.15 0.021 71,320 12 AS47027 SEASIDE-COMM - Seaside Communications, Inc. CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 425,561 1.31 0.013 43,633 13 AS803 SASKTEL - Saskatchewan Telecommunications CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 392,186 1.21 0.012 40,211 14 AS11814 DISTRIBUTEL-AS11814 - DISTRIBUTEL COMMUNICATIONS LTD. CA<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/cgi-bin/aspop?c=CA> 370,348 1.14 0.011 37,972
Jack
-- Best Regards, Filip Hruska Linux System Administrator