Then Africa in particular is specifically disadvantaged - I spent a good deal of time in Haiti and 4G connectivity was abundant at good speeds, as were terrestrial fiber connections. Mirrors my experience in half a dozen other 3rd world countries. Unless there’s something particularly oppressive about Africa?
On May 28, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote:
--- mpetach@netflight.com wrote: From: Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Ben Cannon <ben@6by7.net> wrote:
I’m sorry I simply believe that in 2018 with the advanced and cheap ptp radio (ubiquiti anyone? $300 and I have a 200mbit/sec link over 10miles! Spend a bit more and go 100km) plus the advancements in cubesats about to be launched, even the 3rd world can simply get with the times.
I do not think you adequately understand the economics of the situation.
https://www.slideshare.net/InternetSociety/international-bandwidth-and-prici...
slide 22, IP transit cost.
Your 200mbit/sec link that costs you $300 in hardware is going to cost you $4960/month to actually get IP traffic across, in Nairobi. Yes, that's about $60,000/year.
Could *you* afford to "get with the times" if that's what your bandwidth was going to cost you?
Please, do a little research on what the real costs are before telling others they need to "simply get with the times." -----------------------------------------
Also, please don't just look at continental countries when researching. Look at the small PICs (Pacific Island Countries). For example, search the posts from Christian on Kiribati on the PICISOC list. The cost is extraordinary and all the ego-flattering bloat rsk speaks (relevant part of the post id below) of in very expensive to download and is nearly impossible to stop.
scott
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The problem (part of the problem) is that the people doing these foolish things are new, ignorant, and privileged: they don't realize that bandwidth is still an expensive and scarce resource for most of the planet. I've said for years that every web designer should be forced to work in an environment bandlimited to 56K in order to instll in them the virtue of frugality and strongly discourage them from flattering their egos by creating all-singing all-dancing web sites...that look great in the portfolios they'll show to their peers but are horribly bloated, slow, unrenderable in a lot of browsers, and fraught with security and privacy problems. (Try pointing a text-only browser at your favorite website. Can you even read the home page?)