Good stuff Justin - Any other criteria that you would use? much appreciated, Eric Louie -----Original Message----- From: Justin M. Streiner [mailto:streiner@cluebyfour.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:17 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Evaluating Tier 1 Internet providers On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Eric Louie wrote:
Based on various conversation threads on Nanog I've come up with a few criteria for evaluating Tier 1 providers. I'm open to add other criteria - what would you add to this list? And how would I get a quantitative or qualitative measure of it?
Define "Tier 1 provider". I ask this because it's something that many people don't know what it means, but assume that Tier 1 > Tier !=1.
routing stability
Routeviews.org can shed some light here.
BGP community offerings
If $provider has a page on www.peeringdb.com, they might publish a list of their BGP communities there. Other places to look would be the provider's whois/IRR entries, and on their respective websites, or the sales/marketing folks might be able to get this information for you.
congestion issues
There are various internet traffic report / weather report sites that can give you indirect insight into things like. By indirect, I mean that you might be able to infer things like congestion at a specific point based on what you see on those sites.
BGP Peering relationships
You can look at pages like www.peeringdb.com, and you will typically see if $provider is at an exchange, however the peering relationships that many providers have other providers (locations, speeds, etc) are confidential.
path diversity
You can ask $provider's sales and marketing folks, but there is no guarantee that you will get an answer (actual routes are considered confidential and proprietary information, despite the fact that a lot of providers' fiber ends up converging in a small handful of routes in some areas - i.e. many of them follow the same set of railroad tracks or cross a river at the same bridge, possibly even in the same conduit) or a correct answer (wave X might be re-groomed onto path Y without a whole lot of customer notification).
IPv6 table size
Sites like routeviews.org can give you some visibility here.
Seems like everyone offers 5 9's service, 45 ms coast-to-coast, 24x7 customer support, 100/1Gbps/10Gbps with various DIR/CIR and burst rates. I'm shopping for new service and want to do better than choosing on reputation. (or, is reputation also a criteria?)
Absolutely reputation should be a factor. I would argue that Internet access is largely commoditized anymore (and has been for several years), so the real differentiators are cost and level of service. jms