[ On Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 11:56:56 (-0500), Dean Anderson wrote: ]
Subject: Re: ARIN whois
There you go posting private e-mail to the list again. Please don't do that! If you can't figure out how to run you're mailer properly then perhaps you shouldn't be using it. (Maybe I should have guessed at your mailer skills when I saw how your text wasn't nicely formatted....)
I'm all for working with the community. Each time I have, it has turned out that we need to operate relays.
That's a pretty damn poor service you're "offering" to the community then. Dis-service, more like.... As someone else has already tried to explain, mail relays never have to be "open relays".
Possibly, SMTP AUTH will make unauthenticated relaying unnecessary. I'm still looking into how widely deployed it is on email clients.
Possibly -- if *you* can figure out how to do it!
Its the foolish people who ASSUME that all of the internet is composed of cable modems and the company email server, and the internal company modem bank, all behind a firewall and a VPN who think we don't need to operate relays.
Try to take relaying out of sendmail, and see what happens.
Been there -- done that (well, with smail, not sendmail, but what the heck) -- on to more interesting challenges.
I'm just foolish enough to tell the junior antispammer league that relaying has a legitimate purpose, and can't be removed. Most other people aren't willing to waste the time with them. I was also foolish enough to think they could think something through without resorting to abusing our servers, and making posts to alt.2600. Yep. I know when I did something wrong.
Given your propensity for claiming you're going to make a profit from prosecuting the so-called "offenders", perhaps we should surmise that your true "legitimate business purpose" is to do just that. -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP <gwoods@acm.org> <robohack!woods> Planix, Inc. <woods@planix.com>; Secrets of the Weird <woods@weird.com>