You might also want to think about it's not to far off that the gov starts supplementing those cost of these users, with all the changes being made in USF. Possible why comcast has started taking on these users to get a good head count. Does anyone know with these low end comcast package does the user still need to pay the $5 modem rental fee? Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / carlos@race.com / http://www.race.com -----Original Message----- From: Eric J Esslinger <eesslinger@fpu-tn.com> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:19:24 -0600 To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat... We're toying with the idea of a low bitrate 'lifeline' internet on our cable system, maybe even bundled with a certain level of cable service. First question, if you happen to be doing something like this, what bit rates are you providing. Second question, though 'real' internet customers all get real IP's, what would you think of doing something like this with 'large scale' nat instead. Understand, we're only talking about basic internet, something like a 256k/96k (or similar) connect, not something that would be used by a serious user. (One thing we are looking at is some older dial up users we still have, most of which could go onto cable just fine but don't want to pay the price). Also when I say large scale, I doubt I'd have more than a few thousand customers for this. We're not a large ISP/cable company by any means. __________________________ Eric Esslinger Information Services Manager - Fayetteville Public Utilities http://www.fpu-tn.com/ (931)433-1522 ext 165 This message may contain confidential and/or proprietary information and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited.