FYI for those that might be attending APNIC 28 in Beijing next week. -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve@eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? From: Skeeve Stevens Sent: Monday, 17 August 2009 9:05 PM To: 'apnic-talk@apnic.net' Cc: ausnog@ausnog.net; nznog Subject: BoF for APNIC 28 in Beijing - IPv6 Promotion Greeting all that will be attending APNIC 28 in Beijing, While we are in China at APNIC 28, and as per the spirit of 1.3 of http://www.apnic.net/__data/assets/pdf_file/0012/3117/sig-guidelines.pdf I am proposing that we hold a BoF for the purpose of seeing if there are enough interested parties to get together to discuss the issue of IPv6 promotion in the APNIC region with the 'maybe' end of it becoming a SIG. I am asking for some leeway in this request as this region is a complex one with a very broad range of cultural differences and language barriers that that don't always translate across the entire membership. For example, the way we might want to accomplish something in Australia could be very different to the way it would be done in say Japan, China or India. IPv6 promotion is something that APNIC has been doing for quite a while now, with some degree of success. But given the timeframes in which we have till things get very painful for many organisations, I do not believe that APNIC has sufficient resources (whether that be man-power, financial, etc) to effectively promote it across all the economic communities that it represents. I would like the hold a BoF to gauge the interest on how members themselves can be more involved in their region, what they would/could be prepared to do, and to discuss the challenges that we are having, developing new ideas and focusing on specific ways to promote IPv6 - without all the technical mumbo-jumbo. I am suggesting a much less technical perspective needs to take shape. I realise that a very large percentage of us are technical people, but there are many business minded people who I am sure have many great ideas... and if there isn't that many... let's get them involved somehow. Many members in the APNIC region have their own NIR (JPNIC, CNNIC, etc) to assist in these kinds of matters (I assume), but in Australia and NZ specifically speaking for my area of focus, we deal directly with APNIC... so I don't know how appropriate having people who deal with their NIR directly on these matters, but the more the merrier. There is no suggestion in this proposal that the many people who talk at conferences about IPv6, or APNIC themselves have not done a good job... My suggestion is that we can do more, and time is of the essence. I am inspired to bring this about by my own passion regarding IPv6 adoption, and I am willing to put (and already have put) the resources and passion of me and my company behind efforts to help finding new ways to foster IPv6 adoption in this region. There seems to be an issue of room availability at APNIC28, but if I have to put up some $$ myself and we go take over the local McDonalds, I am willing to do so to try and help make this BoF happen. I think timing is important... and I think now is the time we need to start discussing these things. Big machines like APNIC move rather slowly, and I am willing to try to do what it takes to try and push things along. So, if you're going to be in Beijing, and you really are passionate about IPv6 adoption, please come and see me - the big bald aussie-guy - and let's get something happening. I will be looking at the schedule to see where we can fit a couple of hours to chat. Also, you might be approached by myself or others who are also interested in making this happen. All I can ask is to please be involved, and DO - rather than talk about it. -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve@eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? Disclaimer: Limits of Liability and Disclaimer: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. 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